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So I’m coming back to the heating

the annoying little thing is that if it works it’s just become an overcomplicated mess because of the Gladys system (it’s not only Gladys that uses this)

but to manage my 8 radiators I end up with 4-5 scenes for each which is really cumbersome in terms of management and maintenance and I’m not sure I did everything right

a dumb example but for instance for one radiator I have to do

global scene for each mode (currently 4: off, auto, 16°C and boost)

added to that are

an auto-on scene when it needs to reach 20°C
an auto-mode scene when it’s 16°C
a scene to set it to 16°C
a holiday scene to handle when it’s 20°C
a holiday scene when it’s 16°C

for each scene I have to be careful that none takes a condition that blocks another and conversely I have to block
example: I trigger boost and suddenly it activates a scene because I didn’t think to block in case of boost

if anyone has a trick to avoid having 44 scenes just to manage the heating — and I haven’t even added a fake device to vary my target temperature yet

I dream of a Scratch-like programming system with variable handling!!!

Hi @Prof_Techno,

Thanks for your feedback! I’m curious to know exactly what you do in Gladys so I can better understand your needs.

If we can improve heating management to make it simpler, that would be great :slight_smile:

I’m in the process of making something to show what I think we should aim for; besides, it’s for my classes so it doesn’t bother me

I’m trying to do it during the day

So it’s done, but I have an internet outage at home so I can’t post my screenshots. As soon as it’s restored I’ll share them

So here is my program as well as a visual rendering that would be nice in Gladys (the visual rendering is very austere in Gladys; it doesn’t help me convert the people around me)


this first image is for when we can send a variable with the temperature setpoint

and now the same without sending the setpoint


here is my visual rendering

so the colored buttons and the letters are to simulate mode changes or calendar data

that’s my work for the day

ps: my students are doing this in a simpler way; this will be the correction for their assignments haha

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Hi @Prof_Techno :slight_smile:

I just wanted you to explain in your own words what you want to do with your heating!

The idea is to understand your need, and then see how we could propose an ultra simple way to do it in Gladys, that even someone totally inexperienced could use, without any IT knowledge.

I’ll be very frank I think that’s really ugly :joy: What you show is exactly what I want to avoid in Gladys!

In Gladys, I’m trying to make something for

So, for the general public side: Scratch is taught from primary school through troisième (the final year of lower secondary), and Python from seconde (the first year of upper secondary).

As for the ugly side, I agree the programming part isn’t the prettiest, but you get used to it.

Also, the dashboard lacks color.

Here I wanted a rendering with my house plan that indicates, for example, whether the radiators are on and the temperature.

Otherwise, to explain what I want to do: I just want to manage it based on the temperature, the time, the calendar date, and the mode. And I would also like to have variables to manage the temperature threshold.

I’m not sure if I’m very clear; if not

In fact, what would be best for you is just a native heating control in Gladys, I think! Without going through custom scenes.

Just a nice interface to set the mode, the ability to connect a calendar, and to set the temperatures for each mode.

Exactly like I did for the alarm mode, now we have a native alarm mode in Gladys :slight_smile:

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Right now that’s what I have, but it’s in 40 scenes, which is cumbersome to manage and create.

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I think we could re-open a feature request but solely related to this native heating management layer; the thread had been closed because the original topic was about managing thermostatic heads, which is already possible!

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I’d be happy to write a short piece about heating because I’m starting to really master the subject and all the variables to consider

If anyone is interested, I can put something together

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I’d add @lmilcent to the loop as well, because his original post is actually quite good:

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Currently I manage the heating based on events in the calendar, in addition to detecting my presence.

That way, if I’m working from home, I have the dedicated mode for the day. Otherwise it drops to 17°C all day until one of us returns.

@Prof_Techno, will you start writing and I’ll review it with my comments and suggestions?

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I’ve already opened the new post

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After a long break during which everything ran on autopilot without any problems, I’m going to dive back into Gladys to redo my scenes with the new features that have appeared over the past few months.

And try to add a few new features at home

Happy holidays to everyone

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Hello

I’ve read some things about the Android Tasker app

I’m hesitant to take the plunge

Would you have any examples of use with the free version of Gladys that could help me decide

Thanks

Hi @Prof_Techno :blush:

There are plenty of possibilities with Tasker :

  • Presence detection at home via geofencing
  • Scanning NFC tags to execute actions in Gladys. For example: an NFC tag on the bedside table to activate a « night mode », a tag at the entrance to indicate « I’m home », which disables the alarm, etc.
  • Bluetooth connection to your car to mark you as « away » from home
  • Automatic connection to your home’s Wi-Fi to signal your return
  • Periodic sending of your phone’s battery level to Gladys to display it on the dashboard
  • Voice announcement on the home’s speakers in case of a notification

… and many more :wink:

Tasker is a very powerful tool: anything is possible depending on your imagination and needs.

Don’t hesitate to create a dedicated thread if you test Tasker and want to show the community what you’ve set up!

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You’ve convinced me, I’ll make an exception and release the card on Google Play… which hardly ever happens to me!

Also NFC tags, of course!!

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I set up a scene to automatically manage the lighting in my hallway, so that it turns on only when necessary and without manual intervention.
This setup relies on two wireless motion sensors (strategically placed at both ends of the hallway) and on a switch integrated directly into the lamp.

:gear: Hardware used

  • 2 battery-powered wireless Zigbee motion sensors (discreet and easy to place)
  • 1 Zigbee switch (in-wall module if necessary)
  • Zigbee2MQTT controller for device management
  • Home automation software Gladys for creating the scene

:white_check_mark: Advantages

  • Lights turn on only when needed
  • No manual pressing of a switch
  • Detection at each entrance of the hallway thanks to the two sensors

:magnifying_glass_tilted_left: How it works — see images :

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