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  • What is my profile

So I am a total beginner in home automation, I don’t know the theory — in short, not much at all

  • What were my needs

My needs are those of Iron Man obviously, but we’ll start with temperature and heating

  • How I came to home automation

I got into it to save money and because of my geek side

  • Which hardware I chose

As for hardware, I’m counting on you, but from what I’ve been advised I’ll start with an old PC and a bit of Zigbee after your recommendations to do my first tests

  • The most important, the implementation (this is the part where you can add photos, plans, basically everything you deem necessary to describe your installation)

For now no plans — I have nothing, just the old PC

  • What could be the future evolutions of my installation

As I said, long live Iron Man

And now start my project

I must buy, based on your advice, a Zigbee dongle or something similar with a likely future move to Matter

What are your recommendations for buying my first Zigbee module

And temperature / humidity / presence sensors? I plan to put a lot in the long run, like one per room, but I have many rooms

Thanks again for your welcome

PS: regarding where to buy, I’m not against Chinese stores — I’m not in a hurry

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Hi @Prof_Techno,

Personally I started with temperature sensors with a screen, but Bluetooth. That was a mistake, Zigbee is sooo much better and integrated with Gladys (if you have the USB adapter).

For info, Gladys Assistant is affiliated with Domadoo, so all the links here allow a small commission to be paid to the project. If you want to buy something else on Domadoo, add ?domid=17 to the end of the URL before clicking « buy ».

Personally I’ve bought a lot on Leboincoin, but I check new prices so I don’t get ripped off. All Aqara sensors are generally also sold on AliExpress, but it’s not always easy to find the right model, there’s no warranty and shipping is often slow. It’s better to buy cheaper on leboncoin or on Domadoo to have the 2-year legal warranty.

Temperature sensors

Here is a Zigbee recommendation. I haven’t specifically tested this model, but I have tested the brand and it’s generally good quality.
The advantage here is that you can « patafix » them (use poster putty / Patafix) or stick them to the wall at human height and display the room temperature live in addition to sending it to Gladys.

Be careful because depending on the sensor’s position you’ll get different temperatures (depending on whether you place it 2 m high or 50 cm above the floor).

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https://www.domadoo.fr/fr/domotique/6667-moes-capteur-de-temperature-et-humidite-avec-ecran-zigbee-tuya.html?domid=17

Wireless switches and buttons

A wireless button is handy for launching scenes without taking out your phone. Some buttons can do « single click », « double click » and « long click », allowing more possibilities.

Wall switches

Warning!! You must always check whether your installation has one or two live wires (usually 2 wires: one live and one neutral). Many models, especially on AliExpress, require two live wires and are therefore incompatible.

I’ve tested Aqara’s, but the wall part is square and doesn’t always fit into flush-mount boxes. The best ones I found are the Legrand models (with dimmer), but new they’re 70€ each (usually 40€ on leboncoin).

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Hi, would something like this work as a Zigbee gateway?

MoesHouse Multi-mode Smart Gateway ZigBee3.0 WiFi Bluetooth Mesh Hub Working with Tuya - Banggood France

or something like this: US ZigBee Gateway Plug E1 - up to 100 Tuya Smart Life devices. Supports Bluetooth and ZigBee 3.0 Sockets, switch, 220V relay, roller shutter, bulb and LED strips. Wi-Fi 2.4 GHz : Amazon.fr: DIY

SONOFF ZigBee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, TI CC2652P Coordinator, Universal USB ZigBee Hub, ZigBee Gateway for Home Assistant : Amazon.fr: Computers

2-in-1 Wireless Gateway Zigbee 3.0 Bluetooth 5.0, eMylo WiFi 2.4G ZigBee Gateway Compatible with Tuya Smart Devices, Remote : Amazon.fr: DIY

I can’t figure out which is best?

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I bought this one recently and I have no issues with it:
SONOFF ZigBee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, EFR32MG21 Coordinator

with these 2 sensors:
SONOFF SNZB-02D Mini ZigBee Temperature and Humidity Smart Sensor

And they’re 10% off if you buy the sensors together with the dongle.

Also available from Domadoo via the affiliate link given above and for less than on Amazon.

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If you buy a Zigbee gateway, then Gladys needs to have an integration for the brand.
In your examples, there should be a « Tuya » or « Nous » integration.

Personally, I would rather recommend going with a Zigbee USB adapter, one of the recommended models: Supported Adapters | Zigbee2MQTT.

The SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P CC2652P is indeed one of the recommended models (your Amazon link, presumably). Note that the SonOff « ZBDongle-E » model is in experimental support, whereas the « ZBDongle-P » is officially supported.

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Well, the first order has been placed

Waiting for delivery — there will be a dongle and 3 temperature sensors to get started, just to tinker a bit

SONOFF - USB Zigbee 3.0 Dongle + external antenna 20dBm (V2) ZBDongle-E \t \t 2 * SONOFF - Zigbee 3.0 Temperature and Humidity Sensor with display \t

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Happy to follow your progress on this topic!

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Silly question — can something like this be integrated into Gladys??

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Veeery difficult to say!
Either it’s Tuya-compatible and in that case yes, or it’s ZigBee and in that case yes, or… probably not…

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You went into a Noz store, that’s not ZigBee and I don’t think it’s Tuya either since I didn’t do anything with it, but anyway it cost me €1.50.

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Okay, I just received my equipment. Now a silly question: can I install Gladys on Windows 10 Pro?

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Yes, indeed it’s at NOZ, but I didn’t dare take it because I wasn’t familiar with it.

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It’s not really a problem as long as you install it in a ‹ Docker › environment and properly set the environment variables (access to USB ports, etc.).
That said, nothing beats Linux for that…
See the tutorial: Installer Gladys sur un mini PC

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To be honest ( depending on the date of the last time you used Linux) Linux is VERY user-friendly insofar as you stick to

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I’m going to see if it’s really worth switching to Linux — if Docker works well on Win10 or 11 Pro I don’t really see the point since we’re running it in Docker

but Linux, even with a Mint layer or whatever, is nice, yet as soon as you do something unexpected it quickly becomes a return to the command line and honestly doing command-line work isn’t what I’m most passionate about — I gave that up back in the DOS days lol

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I’ll chime in :slight_smile:

Docker on Windows and on Mac only launches a Linux VM, so running Gladys will be possible, but with very limited functionality — it’s handy for testing but not really for daily use.

All integrations that need access to the local network won’t work (Sonos Scan, LAN Manager, Tuya, Xiaomi, etc…)

I’m not sure the USB ports for Zigbee will work.

Gladys is just a server, so when you install Gladys most of the time you don’t even install an OS with a GUI, just a headless OS.

The « Gladys box », you plug it in and forget it, nobody knows it’s Linux underneath. (just like your Freebox, it’s Linux underneath but nobody knows :smiley: )

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It’s so much better and faster than managing things by mouse clicks.

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OK I’m coming — I’ll keep you posted as soon as I’ve succeeded, and if it doesn’t work on Windows I’ll switch to Linux, but that would force me to rebuild a PC and I didn’t want to do that lol

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You just have to search on Le Bon Coin for « mini-pc » to find lots of cheap mini machines on which you can install a Linux like Ubuntu Desktop or MX Linux 23 and then Gladys
example here
https://www.leboncoin.fr/ordinateurs/2461846550.htm

you can even install OpenMediaVault 6 (very lightweight) on it to have a NAS, DLNA and then Gladys on it in Docker managed by OMV6 or as a parallel installation

In both cases you’ll have a dedicated system that requires little intervention!

@pierre-gilles, you must be with Reef because at Free everyone knows it’s Linux! :rofl:

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