Scene on a user's return

[Jean-Philippe]

Hello,

I created a scene with a trigger on:

• A user’s return
• The house was empty before

But in the end, it’s an OR, so it doesn’t suit me, because depending on who comes in, I don’t do the same thing, and here in the end, the 2 scenes are triggered at the same time regardless of the user.

Is there a way to manage this?

I wanted to try by retrieving the status of the Bluetooth device associated with each one, but I’m not sure if there is a corresponding value.

[pierre-gilles]

We have a trigger designed for this purpose, it’s called « Home is no longer empty »

This trigger will activate when any user of the house returns and is the first to do so (the house was empty before)

Does that meet your need, I think?

We also have the opposite trigger, « Home is empty », which activates when the last user leaves the house!

[Jean-Philippe]

That’s the one I use, but I want to distinguish based on which user enters the house.

But as this seems to be an OR, but 2 scenes are triggered simultaneously.

[pierre-gilles]

It’s indeed an « OR ». For you to have an « AND », there would need to be a condition within the scene « User XX is at home ». We don’t have that at the moment

Could you make a feature request on the forum?

[Jean-Philippe]

I voted on this feature:

Scènes : condition de déclenchement multiple (ET/OU)

J’aimerais pouvoir activer une scène en fonction de plusieurs critères obligatoires. Par exemple : Si il est entre 23:00 et 00:30 et que ma porte d’entrée s’ouvre, Alors allumer la lumière de l’entrée en cas de mouvement. Autre exemple : Si capteur X et capteur Y Alors action Z Pour le moment les déclencheurs sont en parallèle, en mode “ou”. On ne peut pas les cumuler pour continuer.

I think that the « AND » responds to this need in a simpler way, rather than creating a trigger « The house is no longer empty » and then adding a condition further down.
It would be better to allow an « AND ».

However, the development might be more complex?

[pierre-gilles]

@Jean-Philippe

I think the AND responds more simply to this need, rather than making a trigger “The house is no longer empty” and then adding a condition further down.
May as well allow an AND.

So the dev is maybe more complex on the other hand?

This development will not take place in the form described as discussed in the post.

An « AND » in the triggers does not make sense, because two triggers cannot be triggered at the same time (I am talking from a « functional/philosophical/theoretical » point of view), it is physically impossible.

I don’t know if the distinction between trigger and condition is clear? Do you see what I mean? ^^

What can be done, however, is a trigger + a condition in the scene.

In your case, you just need the condition « Continue if user XX is at home/is not at home » Are you making a feature request?

[Jean-Philippe]

Okay, I understand, it doesn’t make functional sense.
I’m making a request
I might be able to try doing the development, but I’m struggling with writing tests right now .. well, I lack time to improve my skills in this area ^^

[pierre-gilles]

@Jean-Philippe

I’m making a request

Thanks

@Jean-Philippe

I might try to do the dev anyway, but I’m struggling with writing tests right now … well, I lack time to improve my skills in this area ^^

Oh? Don’t hesitate if you have specific questions, tests are really simple, not more complicated than writing the code We can even call each other if you want to look at it live