Tag improvements

[spenceur]

Hello !
First of all

[Will_71]

+1 for alphabetical sorting

Edit: And I’d also add the ability to delete/edit a tag and add a « deselect all » button

[Terdious]

I think a tag that has 0 uses should be automatically deleted, shouldn’t it?

[guim31]

I mostly agree.

Also, what would be nice in the long run is that once we’ve selected one or more tags, we have a button to activate / deactivate the matching scenes.

I’m thinking of my pool, which requires several scenes, but which I don’t use all year. I’d like to be able to perform an action on all the pool-management scenes at once; it would be much more convenient.

[spenceur]

Absolutely!

Another thing: if I select 2 tags (alarm, presence)
I would have preferred to have only the scenes that match both tags and not the scene that matches just one of the two tags.

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[b3n.0]

I agree with @spenceur, it allows for much more effective filtering.

[pierre-gilles]

@spenceur

What do you and @pierre-gilles think?

Totally, that’s a good idea

@_Will_71

add a ‹ deselect all › button

I told you we’d get the reaction @Lokkye

@Terdious

I think a tag that ends up with 0 uses should be automatically deleted, right?

That’s already the case; a tag with zero uses doesn’t exist

@guim31

Also, what would be nice long-term is that once we’ve selected one or more tags, we have a button to enable/disable the matching scenes.

Feature request (bulk actions on the scene list)

@spenceur

I would have preferred to have only the scenes that match both tags, and not the scenes that match just one of those tags.

I was the one who asked for an « OR » because I’d tested various software and generally it was an OR that was used.

Is there a consensus here that it should be an AND instead?

[guim31]

That works for the feature request.

I agree more with AND for multi-tags. It seems more logical to me personally.

[spenceur]

I will make the requests tonight!

Yes, one will be simpler

[pierre-gilles]

@Lokkye Can you take care of the various feedback?

[Lokkye]

Yes yes I’m on it

[pierre-gilles]

Sorry for the « OR/AND », I was the one who thought it would be better as OR and apparently people don’t like it

[spenceur]

@Lokkye, I’m creating requests for the sorting and the badge that counts the number of scenes?

[Hizo]

Personally, I think OR is more appropriate…

However, I noticed a bug: if I click and unclick Vacuum several times, I end up with this:

That the Vacuum scene is active even though nothing is checked anymore

[spenceur]

@Hizo

Personally, I find that OR is more suitable…

Can you explain why so we can understand your point of view?

From my point of view, you do the « or » by clicking on a tag, then unchecking it and clicking another.

However, there’s no way to do the « and » in the case where you want to find your four scenes that do Sonos, alarm, light, etc. all at once (that’s an example from my setup).

Currently I was tagging them in the title "security

[Lokkye]

So, summary of fixes or improvements:

• Sort the list of tags alphabetically
• Add badge with the number of scenes
• Add a button to deselect all
• Change OR to AND in the filter
• Bug « tag hammering » (« martelage des tags »)

For now, I’ve only done the first three, here’s the result:
![Screenshot 2023-11-22 at 11.28.20|296x382](upload://4sRIxS1jqeUWip6K3

[spenceur]

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[Lokkye]

Here’s the PR with all the fixes:

Fix return tag scene

@spenceur

By the way, is there a way to persist the search or the selection of tags when returning to this page? Like what’s done in the mqtt service search?

Uh I don’t know, probably, but we need to see how it was done in the mqtt service

[Terdious]

Hi @Lokkye,

First of all, a huge thank you for this development!! It’s simply magical, I think that for the past year it was the one essential missing feature for me!! Too many scenes… it was unmanageable ^^ I feel reborn.

@spenceur

Can you explain why so we can understand your point of view?

From my point of view, the OR is done by clicking on a tag, then unchecking and clicking another.

However, the ‹ AND › can’t be done in the case where you want to find your 4 scenes that do Sonos, alarm, lights, etc… (this is an example from my setup)

Currently I was tagging them in the title « security - »
And I was searching for that but it’s quite cumbersome and tedious when your big thumbs type ‹ secrity - › or ‹ securty - ›

@spenceur in this case I’m the one who doesn’t understand this request for ‹ AND ›. On the contrary I understand @pierre-gilles’ original request for ‹ OR › which, to me, makes more sense as a default. It’s the whole power of what @Lokkye has developed. The tag itself serves directly as both ‹ AND › and ‹ OR ›

Concrete example: I want to see my scenes managing ‹ HP › — I check HP; I want to see only my HC — I uncheck HP and check HC. Finally, I want to see my HP and HC — I check both.

Then if I want to see my water heaters (cumulus) and my dryers, with an OR it’s possible whereas with an AND it’s impossible — I could never. If I want to do an AND I just need to group into a single tag the devices that should be shown alone (in your example ‹ security ›). If you hide it you’ll only have those devices.
The ‹ OR › allows this visual mix and from my point of view is more obvious. The tag allows grouping by family and thus in itself to do this ‹ AND ›

Finally, the ‹ OR › is perfectly achievable in the same way. In my first example, with a tag ‹ Gestion HC/HP › it can group them. But in my opinion…^^… it makes less sense. Opinions can differ depending on everyone’s needs ^^

[spenceur]

Thanks for your feedback, I found that instructive.

So if I understand correctly, we’d have to create an intermediate tag hc/hp just for x scenes?
Are we going to end up with 1 million « unique » tags just for that?!
I don’t think that’s viable in my case.

I think we won’t agree on our usage haha.

Let’s see what @b3n.0, @guim31 and the others think ^^